bad news

so good thing all of us have reefs, we can repopulate the oceans. Does that mean we get tax cuts and free electricity? :D
 
i guess it's time for me to go into full force invention mode. question is, time machine, or CO2 remover?
 
Sucks. Just had a long long arguement with a friend about how global warming-climate change - call it what you want- according to him is a huge hoax. Guess I need to plan an Australian vacation and see it before it is gone.
 
fishtankcrazy said:
Don't worry after Obama finishes destroying this country, we won't have to worry about climate change....
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You know, for a microsecond I thought about deleting your post just because of its ridiculousness in this thread.

I think it's better just to leave it, so everyone else can bask in your topical opinion....
 
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fishtankcrazy said:
Don't worry after Obama finishes destroying this country, we won't have to worry about climate change....
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Thanks for the post! So perceptive, so well written, based on facts and not just simple opinions. I love it when people actually look at the posts and read the links in them, then comment on them in rational ways that contribute to the conversation. Thanks for adding your amazing insight and well versed witty comments to all of the scientific evidence out there. It is just this kind of addition that contributes to the solution of our many planetary issues. Wish I could write like that. You should get yourself a publicist.
 
Techknowledgy said:
Thanks for the post! So perceptive, so well written, based on facts and not just simple opinions. I love it when people actually look at the posts and read the links in them, then comment on them in rational ways that contribute to the conversation. Thanks for adding your amazing insight and well versed witty comments to all of the scientific evidence out there. It is just this kind of addition that contributes to the solution of our many planetary issues. Wish I could write like that. You should get yourself a publicist.
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I love you Roland...

but not in that way....
 
SDguy said:
You know, for a microsecond I thought about deleting your post just because of its ridiculousness in this thread.

I think it's better just to leave it, so everyone else can bask in your topical opinion....
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Peter, this is the brashest (I think thats a word) I have ever heard you. Nice to see you have some SPICE...=)

I'm not an Obama fan either, but that comment did come out of left field....
 
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lol... after reading that, I can completly understand why that would bring out someone's "man crush" on Obama like that...

:crazy:
 
This is very upsetting reading that piece just kills me inside. I've loved the ocean and reefs for sometime now and just like the majority of you have not got to see the GBR I guess I have to see it before it goes downhill. One question though for everyone to think about....I wonder if in fact since they know the corals are all going to diminish and become extinct...is it possible that they will take them from their existing environment and try to culture them in some type of aquarium facility strictly dedicated to coral care? Or will they give them to big time expert aquarists to take over? Kind of curious since they know they are gonna die I'm sure they won't just let the corals die as a "role of nature" since the article describes that it took them well over 10 million years to recuperiate from the Peruvian period...just a little food for thought....
 
Well i'm sure if they went in YOUR tank they'd just commit mass suicide... I mean even single celled organisms have standards :p. :angel: Its been a while
Lic3nc3ToKlLL said:
This is very upsetting reading that piece just kills me inside. I've loved the ocean and reefs for sometime now and just like the majority of you have not got to see the GBR I guess I have to see it before it goes downhill. One question though for everyone to think about....I wonder if in fact since they know the corals are all going to diminish and become extinct...is it possible that they will take them from their existing environment and try to culture them in some type of aquarium facility strictly dedicated to coral care? Or will they give them to big time expert aquarists to take over? Kind of curious since they know they are gonna die I'm sure they won't just let the corals die as a "role of nature" since the article describes that it took them well over 10 million years to recuperiate from the Peruvian period...just a little food for thought....
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SDguy said:
You know, for a microsecond I thought about deleting your post just because of its ridiculousness in this thread.

I think it's better just to leave it, so everyone else can bask in your topical opinion....
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:lol::lol::lol:
 
I vote for the time machine it could be useful in so many events not just this one :) Including this post it would seem.
 
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Oceans are our greatest reservoir of CO2 the concentrations stored in the atmosphere pale in comparison to what is stored in the ocean. The worst part about the cycle is that it takes 100 years for CO2 levels to decline and we never give them the chance... we just continue to pump more and more into the earth, water and air. If the permafrost melts and releases the vast quantities of methane stored beneath it wont just be the reef ecosystems that we will have to worry about.

From the UN:
http://www.unep.org/geo/yearbook/yb2008/report/UNEP_YearBook2008_Full_EN.pdf
UNEP Year Book An Overview of Our Changing Environment 2008
 
Whether or not anyone agrees with Al Gore or believe global warming is true or not is not the issue. It is plain and simple that we do not take care of our environment and have become complacent.

I guess I better start upgrading my tank to a 2,000 gallon system. I could justify it by saying "i want my kids to be able to see all the corals that existed!"
 
Haha it was meant as a joke since I know 99% of this forum are liberals... even though i do believe he's destroying this country and we will never fully recover.

But no I do not believe that humans are causing permanent climate change... I believe the earth can heal itself over time as many scientists do. We happen to be at the 12,000 year mark of a 15,000 year hot cycle at the moment. I didn't go into details, well cause it would turn into one long ass debate haha and i'm tired of arguing with hippies... Go Jerry Coleman (some may know why)... But when I here people like Al Gore (who i do respect for helping the environment) come and out say there's no debate, climate change is reality, well its simply not proven to be true yet.. science is always a debate....and the world is split on the issue. Unfortunately when a group is whining a lot, they get press, then the media spins it and makes it look like everyone agrees when that simply isn't true.

However, I do recycle just about everything possible, and try not to be a waster, and fully believe in doing what we can (within economic reality) to have less of an impact. I'm an environmentalist and a realist at the same time.

But thank you very much for not deleting my post... Woah to think in this country and on this forum we still have the freedom to disagree, for now anyways... :)

Techknowledgy said:
Thanks for the post! So perceptive, so well written, based on facts and not just simple opinions. I love it when people actually look at the posts and read the links in them, then comment on them in rational ways that contribute to the conversation. Thanks for adding your amazing insight and well versed witty comments to all of the scientific evidence out there. It is just this kind of addition that contributes to the solution of our many planetary issues. Wish I could write like that. You should get yourself a publicist.
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fishtankcrazy said:
Haha it was meant as a joke since I know 99% of this forum are liberals... even though i do believe he's destroying this country and we will never fully recover.

But no I do not believe that humans are causing permanent climate change... I believe the earth can heal itself over time as many scientists do. We happen to be at the 12,000 year mark of a 15,000 year hot cycle at the moment. I didn't go into details, well cause it would turn into one long ass debate haha and i'm tired of arguing with hippies... Go Jerry Coleman (some may know why)... But when I here people like Al Gore (who i do respect for helping the environment) come and out say there's no debate, climate change is reality, well its simply not proven to be true yet.. science is always a debate....and the world is split on the issue.

However, I do recycle just about everything possible, and try not to be a waster, and fully believe in doing what we can (within economic reality) to have less of an impact. I'm an environmentalist and a realist at the same time.

But thank you very much for not deleting my post... Woah to think in this country and on this forum we still have the freedom to disagree, for now anyways... :)
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freedom to disagree.....yes. But sometimes it's smarter to say nothing than to put yourself out there in what is essentially public for peeps to judge.....especially on a board where interaction with it's membership is pretty much a given :rolleyes:
 
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